We have looked at supporting the OJEU Process in the past both at Procuri and Ariba. At the time the requirements were a pretty far stretch from where we were with the solutions. And the desire from the customer base was not significant enough compared to other initiatives.
But, with the efforts we have made in terms of Public Postings via Ariba Discovery, we are heading down a path that might make it easier to support this. We are going to look into the efforts to support the process through the use of Discovery and possibly webservices. I will pull a meeting together next month to see what is required and what it would take to get there. I would love if you could be apart of such a meeting.
Anyone else interested in us supporting the OJEU process?
We are happy to be part of this team and are happy to share with you what we have developed. There are two aspects to this: 1) posting the notice via xml to the OJEU website (see http://simap.europa.eu/ojs_esenders/become_an_ojs_esender/become_an_ojs_esender_en.htm) and 2) tracking/managing the responses to the notice.
Hi David, I have been working as a reseller for Ariba almost exclusively in the Public Sector over the recent past. Success has been gained via the StartSourcing tool as a proof of concept product befiore moving users onto Sourcing Basic. To date all e-auctions have been below OJEU limits but this will chnge in the forseeable future. So any link to the standard OJEU processes by Ariba would be much appreciated.
Mike Carswell, Clearlead Ltd
are the current Blind Sealed Bid functionalities enough for our requirements? (I mean including Germany).
I have just checked - if you
Select RFP and under (1) Rules, section "Market Feedback" set
Can owner see responses before event closes: No
you will get
On the "Content" Tab of the event you won't see any bid.
On the "Suppliers" Tab of the event you will still see, who was invited but only Status "Intends to Participate" even though suppliers have submitted bids.
On the "Content" Tab of the event you won't see any "submitted bid" in the Audit Log Entries.
Also until the event closes, the tabs for "Scenario" and "Report" are not available.
Have you tried trying a bit more within
- Team Members
- Team Access Control on Line Item level
or adjusting templates?
I would suppose it must be critical, that no-one is able to access the tender - including Ariba Sourcing Support.
Looking forward for some comments touching on this and potentially also "eSignature" issues.
The aspect of OJEU that David is most concerned about is the requirement to publish all events publicly so any supplier can request to participate.
I'm also working on learning about OJEU requirements, and I would be interested to understand if you would want to:
a) create a sourcing project and then have it appear, or a link to it, appear on OJEU? Sort of like two simultaneous events, at different venues?
b) create something 'lighter' than a sourcing project, that is really for the purpose of placing on OJEU, but have this integrated with your Ariba solutions. And then, perhaps in the case of B, be able to import suppliers back to sourcing and add to a specific project?
c) have some sort of collaborative workspace to interact with suppliers that express interest, before inviting them to a sourcing event?
Any of these? A combination? Something different or additional?
We currently have a combination of your three options so we would look to :
Create a Sourcing Event with an option to send a notice to OJEU - there are different types of Notices.
Allow ANY those suppliers to see the notice and then express interest to the Notice if they want.
Be able to import / some or all of the suppliers that expressed interest to the RFP/RFI
There must be a facility for the suppliers to send messages
All integrated into Ariba is what we are looking for.
Suggest you look at how to become an OJS eSender on http://simap.europa.eu/index_en.htm
Can we organise a web demo so I can show what we have done ourselves ?
In the meantime you may want to "play" at being a supplier and respond to one of the notices on www.airportsmart.com > View Contract Notices
That sounds fantastic! I'll contact you to setup a meeting once I figure how to get you contact info out of this system or elsewhere.
As to becoming an OJS Sender: I would like to see this happen. I have gathered and documented the requirements for this. I believe we will get there.