12 Replies Latest reply on Mar 26, 2015 10:52 AM by Jason Brown

    Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM

    ANINDYA GUPTA Novice

      Hi

      Given that cloud based architectures are part of strategic IT initiatives, Will newer versions of SAP SRM be released . Will SAP keep on selling SAP SRM licenses since Ariba already has an extremely wide industry acceptance ?

        • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
          Debbie Curtis-Magley Master

          Hi Anindya:

           

          I contacted Emily Rakowski, who leads SAP and Ariba Procurement Marketing. She provided the following guidance for your question:

           

           

          “SAP SRM remains the solution of choice for SAP customers that want an on premise option for eProcurement, or who need more extensive integration to SAP ERP.  With many thousands of productive customers on this solution, SAP will continue to support this solution including incremental improvements.  In 2013, the SAP SRM User Interface Add-On became generally available as the new shopping interface with a new Amazon-like experience for customers.  Additionally SAP SRM was adapted to run on HANA for faster and more reporting options. Additional improvements on the roadmap for SRM are listed in the publicly accessible roadmap on SAP Service Marketplace.”

           

          Regards,

           

          Debbie Curtis-Magley

          Ariba Exchange Community Manager

            • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
              Laurent Low Expert

              Debbie

               

              What about the future roadmap for Ariba 9rx - Buyer and Sourcing vis-a-vis SAP SRM

                • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                  Jason Brown Master

                  I am not sure what is meant by "Ariba 9rx - Buyer and Sourcing vis-a-vis SAP SRM".

                   

                  Ariba On-Premise continues to innovate and provide point releases on an 18-24 month cadense. 9r2 is expected to be released in May 2014 with 9r3 in Q4 2015. The roadmap items for 9r2 were 100% selected by our existing customers and we have presented several time on the content. If you are interested there are webinars posted for each of the features that are included in the 9r2 release (http://exchange.ariba.com/thread/3246). For 9r3, we have a narrowed the list of candidate enhancements utilizing 2 rounds of customer voting and we are in the final stages of clarification and assignment of selected features into 9r3.

                   

                  There is a long and healthy future for Ariba On-Premise as well as SAP SRM and other On-Premise Procurement Applications.

                   

                  Regards,

                  Jason Brown, PhD

                  Product Management – SAP & Ariba On-Premise Procurement Suites

                    • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                      Shehryar Khan Newbie

                      Thanks Jason. How do you then reconcile statements like:

                       

                      "The on premise SRM solution (current version 7) remains an SAP supported solution for existing customers (as long as they stay on maintained versions), however the product is not getting any further R&D effort or expenditure because SAP have invested in Ariba.  SAP’s strategy is cloud, and therefore the majority of the new development effort will be invested in the Ariba Procurement solutions"

                       

                      This message is coming from SAP Sales.

                       

                      Regards,

                       

                      Shehryar

                        • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                          Jason Brown Master

                          Shehryar:

                           

                          Unfortuantely the statement attributed to SAP Sales "... not getting any further R&D ..." is INCORRECT. In fact that statement is in direct conflict with the last sentence where it says a "majority of the new development", which is correct as the remainer of the innovation is with the on-premise procurement applications. SRM (and other on-premise procurement applications) still has innovation and will continue to be innovated on. The SAP Strategy is Cloud First, but we will still do customer-driven innovation on our on-premise products.

                           

                          I hope that this clears this up,

                          - Jason

                          1 of 1 people found this helpful
                    • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                      Scott Corbett Master

                      One thing that has not been really clear is what is SAP position for non-SAP customers that require an On-Premise for eProcurement? Is Ariba On-Premise an option?

                       

                       

                      This is evolving into a significant issue for some non-US based companies and government organizations that have taken a stance against cloud solutions hosted in the US due to privacy issues related to the Patriot Act/NSA.  I understand that if those organizations have SAP, then they are offered SRM, but some of them do not have SAP as their ERP.

                        • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                          Jason Brown Master

                          If a potential customer's requirements are not met by a cloud solution, then the SAP on-premise solution is positioned (regardless of whether they are an existing SAP or not).

                           

                          Keep in mind that Ariba has an European data center and new European customers can take advantage of that option. Additionally, Ariba is building out other data centers in other countries that have unique regulatory considerations.

                           

                          If you would like to discuss further, then please send me an email at Jason.Brown@sap.com.

                           

                          Regards,

                          Jason

                          1 of 1 people found this helpful
                      • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                        mathew27 Apprentice

                        A very interesting query considering the mix acquisitions and product developments made by SAP in procurement field

                         

                        They have a battery of products available

                         

                        - e-Sourcing and CLM (licensed separately, even though one common product). Was formerly known as Frictionless?

                        - SAP SRM which has evolved from EBP

                        - Ariba with upstream and downstream functions

                        - SNC (Supplier Network Collaboration) which is now part of SAP SCM (formerly known as APO

                         

                        Each of the above product has one or two unique functionalities which are not available in the other products. But many customers have a need for all these functions when handling their procurement functions

                         

                        Just as consulting companies keep saying to customers to consolidate and standardise, wonder who is going to suggest to SAP to standardise and consolidate their product portfolio catering to expenditure control (not revenue enhancement).

                         

                        Not sure what is the goal of SAP

                        - Maximising license revenues

                        - Killing competition

                         

                        Regards

                         

                        Mathew

                          • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                            Debbie Curtis-Magley Master

                            Hi Mathew:

                             

                            SAP will continue to develop both its cloud and on-premise solutions to meet the needs of our existing and expanding customer base. With significant installed bases on each of these solutions, we are committed to serving these customers while planning to simplify the overall portfolio in the long term. Our current focus is on hybrid support and ensuring that all solutions work with the Ariba Network, including SAP SRM, ERP MM, and SNC capabilities. All of this is either already delivered, such as SRM and MM, or has a planned roadmap cadence to include Ariba Network functionality as is the case for SNC.

                             

                            We share the same vision of a "one stop shop" with our customers, but in the meantime, we must support our existing solutions and the transitions that customers make over time to the cloud and the network. It's not a matter of maximizing revenues but rather enabling our customers to make the right strategic decisins to maximize current investments while moving in a modern direction.

                             

                            Debbie

                              • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                                mathew27 Apprentice

                                Thanks Debbie,

                                 

                                I work in project delivery and support area and is working as procurement process specialist

                                I face daily challenges especially when organisations do acquisitions and merge these organisations triggering a need for migrating or running multiple systems parallely throwing up challenges in ensuring process consolidation, consistent enterprise reporting and controls in process.

                                Not to speak of support costs shooting up as one need to have resources with multiple skills in the team

                                 

                                I always wish/pray SAP did some thing to offer one on-demand and one on-premise solution covering all unique functionalities (from different procurement products) and make life simpler for business executives

                                When I speak to SAP development centres they speak of continuous shift in product focus driven by budget allocations in development

                                 

                                The positive thing in all this is that it keeps jobs of many people secure

                                 

                                I am sure consolidation of products is the way to go, when and how possibly may not have definite answers as of now

                                 

                                Regards

                                 

                                Mathew

                            • Re: Roadmap for Ariba and SAP SRM
                              Kaustubh M Journeyman

                              Some of the propositions to SAP Large Clients are consolidated @ SAP SCN

                               

                              http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-62320